Q&A with JK and THK about “This Moment on Earth”
Amanda Griscom Little of Grist got to do what many would like to do. Sit down and talk with John and Teresa about their new book. Here are some of the questions she asked.
When you’ve finished reading, please add the questions you would like to ask about “This Moment on Earth” in the comments and I’ll pass them along.
<!AGL: There are so many topics that you could have covered on the heels of your 2004 election experience. Why did you decide to focus on the environment?
JK: It presents the most important challenges in front of us.
AGL: Can you elaborate? There are certainly plenty of politicians and Americans who would argue that the war is the greatest challenge in front of us.
JK: Global climate change is a security issue on a planetary scale. There are millions of lives that may be impacted by it. But it’s not just climate change that presents critical challenges—it’s overfishing, it’s acidity in the oceans, it’s the mercury in our lakes, streams, and rivers that contaminate our fish. What does it say about a country like ours when 40 percent of our rivers, lakes, and streams are too polluted for fishing or swimming? Our water bodies and air quality are challenged beyond any point in our history. It’s a disgrace, and it’s a challenge to all of us to get it right.
AGL: Your book is very hopeful. What inspired you to write a hopeful book at a time when the challenges are so vast?
JK: This is not at all a Chicken Little doomsday deal. There are tremendous economic opportunities in addressing these problems, climate change in particular. Here you can improve the environment and public health, but also create jobs and strengthen national security. The potential economic byproducts of addressing this issue are enormous. Not only that, the tipping point is near.
THK: The 2004 election convinced both of us of the need to connect the dots for people—between the threats, the solutions, and all the concerned citizens who are working to reverse our downward course. We met so many wonderful people while campaigning who were tackling all different kinds of environmental challenges, and creating solutions at a grassroots level. We were very moved by this hopeful surge of activism. [...]
AGL: The activists you spotlight embody what you call a “bottom-up” approach to environmental activism. You argue that it’s more effective than a “top-down” approach. How so?
THK: Whenever we’ve had systemic and sustainable change in this country, it’s because the grassroots has been ready to accept it. Top-down activity from the government cannot take root unless there’s bottom-up acceptance. In other words, I don’t think the feds can implement aggressive, massive change unless there’s a readiness at the ground level. I think we’re at that moment right now.
JK: You’re going to have to do both. You can’t deal with global climate change unless there’s a government policy to have carbon priced, to have an economy-wide cap, to create incentives for capital to flow toward solutions. But the pressure to make all that happen is going to come more from the bottom up. That’s what spurred the first environmental movement in the 1970s when we got the Clean Air Act, Clean Water Act, marine mammal protections, and all those other laws. We believe that a similar explosion of grassroots activity is happening today.
AGL: It seems to me that the common thread that unites most of the activists you profile is environmental justice, and yet that term only comes up in a few instances in your book. Why did you decide not to use that as a unifying phrase?
JK: Many of the people we spoke with didn’t consider themselves “environmentalists” or part of any particular movement—they just thought they were making a commonsense choice between right and wrong. We’d ask, “Do you consider yourself an environmentalist?” And they’d invariably say, “Not really,” or “No, I don’t,” or “I never think about it.”
Ultimately, we believe, the labels are not important. In fact, the labels can sometimes get in the way—they tend to polarize and isolate. What we want to do is prove that this is inclusive around a bigger set of values and principles that people can all embrace.
You can read the complete interview at Grist. When you have, come back and let me know what questions you have for JK and THK. I’ll pass them along and we’ll put up the answers next week.







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