A Graceful Exit

John Kerry spoke with Wolf Blitzer on CNN’s Late Edition this morning. Here’s a taste of what they discussed.

BLITZER: Well, what do you think of what the president just said, that we’re going to stay in Iraq to get the job done? There’s not going to be, in his words, “a graceful exit” out of Iraq.

KERRY: Well, I think every American hopes that indeed there will be a graceful exit. And that’s what this last election was about. It really was a resounding vote for change in our policy in Iraq.

KERRY : And I think everything that you’re seeing - the Hadley memo that was leaked, now the Rumsfeld memo that was leaked - they all indicate that in fact, there was very different thinking inside the administration than the administration has been sharing with the American public.

BLITZER: And you welcome that.

KERRY : Well, I welcome - I mean, these are things - look, everything in the Rumsfeld memo is a summary of things that I and others laid out three years ago. I mean, Wolf, this is rather extraordinary. We’ve had young Americans on the front lines losing lives and limbs for the last three years while many of us have been offering alternatives for a way to be successful, and the administration has consistently shut that down.

Now we see they’re embracing the very things that we talked about. I’m glad. What’s important now is not the leaks. What’s important is the policy. We have to get this right, as a country. I think King Abdullah’s warning…

BLITZER: King Abdullah of Jordan.

KERRY : ... that you could have three - King Abdullah of Jordan - and, you know, no one’s covered the Middle East more than you. You understand this. The threat of three civil wars at the same time ought to bring all of us together with urgency.

[...] The bottom line is, there is no military solution. General Casey has accepted that. All of the military has accepted that. And in fact, the administration has.

If that’s true, then you have to come back and say, all right, what are the dynamics of getting a solution? Well, the fundamental problem here is a problem between the stakeholders. The Sunni don’t have oil revenues, don’t have security with respect to Baghdad and the Sunni triangle, and don’t have security with respect to the future and the kind of state that the Shia want to create.

The Shia, on the other hand, have won at the ballot box everything they’ve been denied for over 200 years, and they’re not about to give it up easily, and they have oil.

[...] And certainly, anything that we do cannot be American-imposed. That is one of the lessons of the last several years. So any talk of saying, we’re going to divide up the country or we’re going to do this or that is a mistake.

...we can’t impose it. I’ve said since the first day that Peter Galbraith, Les Gelb, Joe Biden and others talked about this.

That represents something you may be able to achieve, but the question is, how do you get from here to there? The only way to get from here to there is by having the political stakeholders come to the table and resolve the differences. That requires a Dayton Accords- like summit. I’ve been calling for that for three years.

BLITZER: An international conference, if you will.

KERRY : Yes, sir. Absolutely.

BLITZER: And it looks like they’re moving on that. It’s probably going to be one of the recommendations of the Baker-Hamilton bipartisan Iraq study group.

KERRY : It will take a lot of groundwork. You’ll have to lay the groundwork. You can’t just suddenly call a summit. You have to put the pieces together. But the bottom line is, the surrounding countries, Saudi Arabia, Jordan, Gulf states, Egypt, et cetera, are Sunni.

They have an interest in not having an Iraq that comes apart. They have an interest in not having a regional civil war. They have an interest in not having Sunnis brothers and sisters murdered, killed in a genocide. So, those stakeholders have to be brought to the table.

 

There’s nothing like seeing and hearing it for yourself though. Check out the video and the complete transcript.

 

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Bravo!  This (matters of international diplomacy) is where I want my President to be a broad, complicated, nuanced and complex thinker/speaker.  :-)  Peoria wants this too.  (In a five second soundbite.)

Posted by kj | 12/03/06, 09:45 AM EST

Finally! A news interview that deals with the problems this country faces.

Senator Kerry was on his game, and anybody that thinks he is wishy washy or doesn’t say what he means needs to see that interview.

Posted by oncall | 12/03/06, 09:56 AM EST

“HOME RUN, Senator Kerry! You hit it out of the park!”

When I turned on the television to watch this interview early this morning, I was expecting a re-play of Senator Kerry’s ‘Situation Room with Wolf Blitzer’ interview from earlier in the week. It was a pleasant surprise to see that the Senator was ‘live’, especially considering the leak of the Rumsfeld memo.

Because of the news about this memo, Senator Kerry was finally proven right BY RUMSFELD HIMSELF…and given the opportunity to say to the WHOLE COUNTRY what those of us here have been hearing him say for a long time: We need a political solution to the war in Iraq. He laid out his plan clearly before the American people. I just hope they are watching.

Now, those of us who know how important it is to elect a President in 2008, based on intelligence and experience, rather than on polls and superficial political traits, such as ‘likeability’, need to push the media (CNN and others) to show clips from Georgetown, October 26, 2005 and Dissent, April 22, 2006…where Senator Kerry passionately called for EXACTLY what he spelled out today. Then, we will have ‘our’ President.  :)

Posted by YvonneCa | 12/03/06, 10:19 AM EST

Excellent! Senator Kerry knowledgeably lays out a thoughtful plan, which takes into consideration the region, players, dynamics, stakes and realities, and defines the best approach—-one that brings our troops home and respects the Iraqis’ right to determine their own future! This is leadership!

Posted by ProSense | 12/03/06, 10:20 AM EST

YvonneCa, yes. Already the headlines on Reuters is: “Bush considering Rumsfeld options on Iraq” instead of “.... Kerry’s Options on Iraq”
http://today.reuters.com/news/home.aspx

Posted by kj | 12/03/06, 10:29 AM EST

Oh, for a fully functioning and established opposition government in this country!  Newspapers, media and all the trimmings!

Posted by kj | 12/03/06, 10:34 AM EST

This was an incredible interview (and I’ll even compliment Wolf Blitzer with sticking to policy, not silliness).  Anyway, Kerry’s statement about McCain struck me as very interesting.  I wrote a diary about it:

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2006/12/3/141751/951#c1

Posted by beachmom | 12/03/06, 10:49 AM EST

Posted by kj | December 3, 2006 3:29 PM

KJ,

I have sent a link of that interview to my e-mail list, posted a link on several blogs and will be sending out and posting some more. As per Charle’s post in the last thread, we have to take responsibility here and get the word out to as many people as we can. Then maybe the MSM will report what we already know.

I think we can also go to some quasi conservative (read independent as well) web sites and remind them, with that video link, that what they are being told is a conservative/neocon recommendation has been John Kerry’s plan all along.

Posted by oncall | 12/03/06, 10:59 AM EST

Posted by beachmom | December 3, 2006 3:48 PM

Excellent diary, beachmom.  Great summary and analysis, and a fascinating history lesson.

Highly recommended.

Posted by GV | 12/03/06, 11:35 AM EST

Posted by beachmom | December 3, 2006 3:48 PM

Excellent diary Beachmom. Am glad that you delved into the history of “stabbed in the back”, I can see how that is exactly how they want it to be played out.  This is a must read.

Posted by kj | December 3, 2006 3:29 PM

This is another set up to get them out of trouble. I’m very suspicious of this so called “memo"many questions loom in my mind. How come I smell a rat ?

Posted by fedup | 12/03/06, 12:06 PM EST

How much will other Dems be resistant to give Kerry credit on this, as well.

With you, fedup, the memo is real? Absolutely?

Posted by Marjorie G | 12/03/06, 12:19 PM EST

Posted by Charles | December 3, 2006 11:34 AM


Charles and Oncall,

I agree.  The issues people care about in their daily lives aren’t being heard.

Posted by Tia | 12/03/06, 12:25 PM EST

Senator Kerry,
That was a fantastic interview you had this morning on CNN. I there any way you can have the same interview with Tim Russert on Meet The Press? CNN is Okay, but MTP is prime-time.
It is interviews like that, that remind me why you should be POTUS.

Beachmom,
My compliments to you. I see your post at DKos - regarding the interview -  is on the recommended page.

Posted by BlueWashington | 12/03/06, 01:07 PM EST

oncall,

great idea.  if you don’t mind, i’ll write a letter to the editor and spread JK’s plan here on the ground. 


fedup and marjorie,

rats, the entire lot of them.

Posted by kj | 12/03/06, 01:51 PM EST

kj:

Eh? How’s that? fedup and marjorie are rats, the entire lot of them?? Why, I never!

Posted by Otter | 12/03/06, 02:05 PM EST

Interesting account on Kos here of McCain smackdown - Iraq is not Vietnam.

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2006/12/3/141751/951

Posted by DiAnne | 12/03/06, 03:30 PM EST

Senator Kerry, so very proud of your powerful interview with Wolf Blitzer today on “Late Edition.”

I, too, would like to see you as a guest on “Meet the Press” without delay, and have emailed my humble request to Tim Russert a few moments ago.

Also, emails were sent to Wolf Blitzer, Alan Colmes, Rita Cosby, and Keith Olbermann with a request to air clips of your October 26, 2005 passionate “Iraq” speech delivered at Georgetown University.  You were in front of the pack on Iraq and deserve to be acknowledged, Sir.

For sure,  we need to keep the momentum going.

Posted by Dotti | 12/03/06, 03:32 PM EST

Here is a letter I wrote to Dr. Thomas Sowell of the Hoover Institute. I think it speaks for itself:

Thomas Sowell in an op-ed piece for the National Journal online dated November 2, 2006 states:

  ....Tim Russert is the only major media commentator who has ever asked him why he will not open his military records, as President Bush has done.
  Kerry has said that he would, that he has, and yet to this day he has never signed the simple form that Bush signed to make the facts available to all.¹

It is a good thing that Dr. Sowell doesn’t list historical accuracy as one of his areas of expertise at the Hoover Institution.

For the record, Senator Kerry did release his military records and did sign the form (Form 180) over a year ago.

  After the election, on May 20, 2005, he did sign a Standard Form 180, allowing full release of all his military service and medical records to the Associated Press,  the Boston Globe, and the Los Angeles Times.²

Dr. Sowell may be interested to learn that the consensus is that the released records were basically the same as what Senator Kerry had posted on his site, and there was no attempt to mislead the public.

Thomas Sowell is guilty of perpetuating a lie. As a Hoover Institute Senior Fellow, I would think he would be more careful about signing an editorial that distorts the truth. He should publish an apology for misleading the readers about his error. Or maybe Dr. Sowell prefers to have the same type of “expert reputation” as Rush Limbaugh? If Dr. Sowell doubts the veracity of my complaint, I have provided three references for him. I also suggest that Dr. Sowell reserve his commentary for one of his areas of “expertise”: Economics, social decision making, ethnicity.


________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
1) http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=YjU4MzBkYjEzNWM3MmNiNzkyZTZmMTlmNGQzODQ0MTc=
2) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Kerry_military_service_controversy
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/05/28/washington/28kerry.html?ex=1306468800&en=7158a80120f0ee5a&ei=5089
http://mediamatters.org/items/200506100008

Posted by oncall | 12/03/06, 04:40 PM EST

No wrong inference taken on the ratty emphasis, but thanks for the defense, Otter.

Paw shake to you.

Posted by Marjorie G | 12/03/06, 06:03 PM EST

While the good Senator claims he is for the troops, lauds his service as a combat veteran, it is very noteable that while anyone stationed at an APO or FPO address can not e-mail comments, requests, or address problems.

In other words, if you are a deployed Soldier, Sailor, Airman, or Marine, Senator Kerry does not really want to hear from you and does not allow you to address him.

But it is noteable that his donations webpage allows donations from APO and FPO addresses.

Posted by Mike D | 12/04/06, 12:19 AM EST

I think John Kerry ‘s appearances on the TV shows this week were great   He is very focused on the business on our Country especially getting things right on Iraq,  He was very statesman like and showed his working knowledge of foreign affairs.

Political people for all their own self serving reasons have really tried to knock JK out of action because of his vulnerability these past couple of weeks but JK showed he is going to have none of it. That’s leadership. It is reassuring that JK will not retreat and will continue to speak about the important issues.

Posted by Jean | 12/04/06, 01:45 AM EST

Mike D:

I’m not quite sure what you’re referring to when you claim that no one at an APO or FPO address can email the Senator.

Here’s the contact information here at johnkerry.com which includes the email address support@johnkerry.com.

It can be found by clicking on the link “Contact Us” which appears at the bottom of every page on this website.

Posted by Violet | 12/04/06, 02:35 AM EST

Terrific piece by Mark Barrett at the Premise this morning on John Kerry and the Iraq war
http://www.thepremise.com/
(see piece dated Dec 4, 2006, 3:04 am)

“For the past four years now, the best voice on Iraq has been John Kerry.  Starting with his floor statement on the Iraq War Resolution vote, through his opposition to the launch of the war before Bush pulled the trigger, right up to today, nobody has been more consistently accurate and engaged about what to do about Iraq than John Kerry.
But we can’t say that.  We can’t notice that one person, again and again, gets it right.
Why?”

See url above for rest of this insightful piece.

Posted by mbk | 12/04/06, 02:52 AM EST
Posted by fedup | 12/04/06, 04:56 AM EST

Mike D,

Have you tried again? I would really like to know if you are able to get your message(s) to Senator Kerry. I think if he were aware that there was a problem, he would be sure it was corrected.

Posted by oncall | 12/04/06, 05:38 AM EST

John Bolton, the Bush administration’s interim ambassador to the U.N., has officially resigned his recess appointment. Here’s what Senator Kerry had to say about Mr. Bolton’s resignation, as noted elsewhere on this site:

“Like Secretary Rumsfeld’s departure, Ambassador Bolton’s resignation offers a chance to turn the page at a critical period. With the Middle East on the verge of chaos and the nuclear threats from Iran and North Korea increasing, we need a United Nations ambassador who has the full support of Congress and can help rally the international community to tackle the serious threats we face. This is an opportunity for the President to appoint a United Nations ambassador who enjoys the support necessary to unite our country and the world and who can put results ahead of ideology. There are many qualified candidates from across the political spectrum with the respect and experience necessary to be effective in this crucial post. The President should act quickly to nominate a United Nations Ambassador who can be confirmed with broad bipartisan support.”

 


and another one bites the dust,
Otter

Posted by Otter | 12/04/06, 10:38 AM EST

Buh-bye John Bolton.

The idea that Bolton should in any way be associated with the NOTION of diplomacy, much less the actual PRACTICE of diplomacy was always ludicrous.

At least in this case, even the Congress agreed.  That alone says something.

Posted by karendc | 12/04/06, 11:16 AM EST

Kerry attacker exposed as fraud:

http://liberalvaluesblog.com/?p=718

While the Swift Boat Liars falsely claim Kerry lied about his war record, one of Kerry’s recent attackers on the botched joke has been exposed for lying about serving in Vietnam.

Posted by Ron Chusid | 12/04/06, 11:31 AM EST

Yes.

And besides, if I hadda listen to him sing “How Am I Supposed To Live Without You” one more time, I swear I was gonna plotz.


johnny be gone,
Otter

Posted by Otter | 12/04/06, 11:33 AM EST

A yiddish otter, who knew?

Posted by Marjorie G | 12/04/06, 01:20 PM EST

Just sharing this great news:

Gold Star Father Becomes US Citizen on 12/12/06
Five and one half years after application for citizenship


Boston, Massachusetts - Carlos Arredondo of Roslindale, MA on Friday, December 1, 2006, learned that he would be granted his US citizenship on 12/12/06 at the Lowell Memorial Auditorium.  Previously denied his application for citizenship, he did not ascertain the reason via the appeal process at that time.  Arredondo first entered the United States via the Mexico – Arizona border in January of 1980.  He last filed for citizenship in March of 2001. 


Known for his very public grief response, Arredondo learned that Lcpl. Alexander Arredondo, USMC was killed in action on August 25, 2004, his 44th birthday. When informed of his son’s death, he set fire to a US Marine van and himself.  No charges were filed against him.  Following physical recuperation from burns sustained on 26% of his body; Arredondo apologized in person to the USMC Casualty Assistance Team.


In July of 2006, Arredondo traveled to Camp Pendleton, California to meet with twenty Marines who had served with his son in Iraq.  He was provided an original of the bronze star commendation that Alex received for valor.  Together Marines and father shared memories of Alex, discussed how Alex was killed and mourned their great loss.


Since Alex’s death, Arredondo has reached out to others who have lost their military family members.  He has spoken publicly in English and Spanish on the topics of PTSD impacting military families and the story of Alex’s life and death.  He is a volunteer for the West Roxbury Veteran’s Administration hospital where he has met troops and their families and the American Red Cross disaster response team.  He previously volunteered for the Boston Shelter for Homeless Veterans.


Carlos Arredondo is married to Mélida Arredondo and has one surviving son, Brian Luis Arredondo.  Prior to Alex’s death, he had requested as part of his citizenship application to change his formal name to Alexander Brian Arredondo in honor of his two sons who he refers to as his “American Dream”.


He is co-founder of People United for Peace, A Gold Star Family Project, a member of Gold Star Families Speak Out and Gold Star Families for Peace.  He and his wife have established two memorial scholarships in Alex’s name at the Blue Hills Regional Technical High School located in Canton and Sacred Heart School located in Roslindale.

Cogratulations!

Posted by Tia | 12/04/06, 04:37 PM EST

I realize the subject has changed a bit, but I wanted to add my opinion on Senator Kerry’s cable news appearances. I enjoy Senator Kerry’s appearances on these political news talk shows, he seems to get better and better. I think he might want to consider doing an entertainment talk program such as “The Tonight Show” or “David Letterman”. This may allow him to reach new people with his ideas and show them what a concerned and caring person he is. 

As for, President Bush’s comments regarding no graceful exit out of Iraq,I am not surrprised- our President seems to be acting and lashing out like a spoiled child that hasn’t gotten his own way. With mature leadership, I am certain, like Senator Kerry, there can be a graceful exit from Iraq.

Posted by wisteria | 12/04/06, 04:38 PM EST

From the Otteworld Quoted Without Comment Department:

“To give real service you must add something which cannot be bought or measured with money, and that is sincerity and integrity.”

—Donald A. Adams

Posted by Otter | 12/04/06, 04:56 PM EST

By the way, I want to point out something you might not have noticed about this blog—just because they’ve switched to a new thread up top, that doesn’t mean there aren’t still some good discussions happening back on the previous thread too.

For example, if you look at the previous “JK on the Blogs” topic at http://blog.johnkerry.com/2006/12/jk_on_the_blogs_5.html you will see there’s some interesting comments still being made on that thread as well as this one.

So don’t forget to check on the previous thread or two when you drop by to see what’s new on this blog, or you might miss out on other parts of the ongoing conversations here.

Posted by M. Loutre | 12/05/06, 02:08 AM EST