A Middle East Tour

As blogger Ron Chusid points out at the Liberal Values blog

“Finally we got a story that means something. Kerry is going back to the Middle East.”

JKMubarak4.jpgAP/Yahoo reports on JK’s meeting with Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak:

“I think it’s important to talk and have dialogue, but you don’t give up your principles and you don’t make deals that are against your larger interest,” Kerry told reporters after talks with Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak.

“Syria needs to understand that and Iran needs to understand that, but I think it’s important to begin a discussion,” added Kerry, a Massachusetts senator.

Kerry, who is considering a second bid for the U.S. presidency, cited the example of late President Ronald Reagan calling the Soviet Union “the evil empire” but not hesitating to negotiate with then Soviet President Mikhail Gorbachev.

 

At the outset of JK’s trip, the Boston Globe reported that JK was leaving:

for a nine-day trip through Iraq and five other Middle Eastern nations, as he seeks to hone a regional approach to ending the Iraq war while entering the final stage of his deliberations about another run for president.

Kerry said he hopes to use the regional trip, his first there in nearly year, to meet with political leaders and US troops in Iraq about solutions to the Iraq conflict. His meetings will include a session with President Bashar al-Assad of Syria, a country that the Iraq Study Group recommended should be included in direct talks about the future of Iraq.

“The Mideast policy as a whole is in tatters, and the situation is getting more dangerous, and there is a lot that’s at play,” said Kerry, a Massachusetts Democrat. “This is the most compelling and important issue on the table today: the war on terror, how it would more properly be fought.”

In addition to Iraq and Syria, Kerry will visit Egypt, Jordan, Lebanon, and Israel, and he will meet with the head of state in all of those countries. He said he plans to venture outside the heavily fortified Green Zone in Baghdad to talk to US troops stationed in more volatile parts of the country, including the Sunni Triangle.
<!-more-> Matt Browner-Hamlin mused about the trip on his blog at the Baltimore Group:

Analysts saw the senators’ visit as the start of a possible U.S. thaw toward Syria. White House officials are said to be divided over whether to engage Syria and Iran, so it’s hard to say what the senators’ trip could mean, said Mackenzie Eaglen, national security analyst at Washington’s Heritage Foundation. “It could be purely educational,” she said.

In either case, Dodd and Kerry’s decision to talk with Syria is a diplomatic step that the Bush administration has refused to make. I don’t know what the subject of Dodd and Kerry’s talks with Syria will be, but the Iraq Study Group recommended the US engage Syria and the Bush administration has flatly refused to this point. Dodd and Kerry are both on the Foreign Relations Committee and are clearly showing what Democratic leadership on foreign affairs looks like.

I wouldn’t underestimate the potential for positive steps coming out of this trip. For one, it reminds the governments of the Middle East that the United States, contra Bush, is not George W. Bush. There are profound differences over how the US crafts our foreign policy and not all American leaders think sitting Syria and Iran in the proverbial corner with a dunces’ cap is the best strategy. Presenting a liberal vision for foreign policy with governments that have been shunned by the US for the last few years is a step forward. That said, any progress Dodd and Kerry make will move forward only if the Bush administration is willing to pick up where they leave off.

 

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Not surprisingly, those fine folks currently inhabiting the West Wing don’t like this latest example of Senator Kerry working hard to carry out the wishes of the American people one little bit.

As these excerpts from recent Reuters, AP, and YNet news stories on visits to the Middle East by Senator Kerry and his colleagues indicate, the Bush Administration is trying hard to spin down and discourage such valid and valuable initiatives on the part of bipartisan officials who are not under its direct control:

WASHINGTON, Dec 14 (Reuters)—The White House sought on Thursday to head off further visits by U.S. lawmakers to Syria, saying such trips undermine President George W. Bush’s message that Damascus must stop meddling in Iraq and Lebanon.

A Democratic senator who met this week with Syrian President Bashar al-Assad said the administration should explore what he said was an opening for dialogue.

But White House spokesman Tony Snow brushed aside that advice from Florida Sen. Bill Nelson and said meetings like his offer a public-relations win to Syria’s leaders.

[...]

Bush has resisted calls to talk to both Syria and Iran, even though engagement with those countries was a central recommendation of the Iraq Study Group, which was led by former Secretary of State James Baker and former Rep. Lee Hamilton and urged an overhaul of U.S. policies on Iraq.

Nelson paid the visit even though the White House made clear its objections ahead of time.

[...]

Other senators are also expected to go to Syria in the next few weeks, including Democrats Christopher Dodd of Connecticut and John Kerry of Massachusetts.

Political sources in Damascus said Sen. Arlen Specter, a Pennsylvania Republican, was expected to visit soon. His office declined to comment on his schedule.

Dodd, who serves on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, defended his visit as part of Congress’s oversight role and said it was important for lawmakers to go to “hotspots, not just garden spots.”

A number of Democrats, who are poised to take over Congress in January, favor engagement with Syria and Iran.

[...]

David Wade, spokesman for Kerry, said the senators are using their visits to Syria for “fact-finding, not negotiating.”

“There’s no better way to test Syrian intentions than by asking the tough questions face to face,” he said.

WASHINGTON, Dec. 14 (AP) - The White House said Thursday that trips to Syria by U.S. lawmakers are a public relations victory for a government that is thwarting democratic reform in the Middle East.

The Bush administration has tried to discourage lawmakers from going to Syria, White House press secretary Tony Snow said. “We think it’s inappropriate.”

Sen. Bill Nelson, D-Fla., emerged from a meeting with Syrian President Bashar Assad in Damascus on Wednesday, saying Assad was willing to help control the Iraq-Syrian border. Nelson said he viewed Assad’s remarks as “a crack in the door for discussions to continue. I approach this with realism, not optimism.”

[...]

Taking issue with the White House, Dodd said in a statement that members of Congress “need to go to hotspots, not just garden spots. I can’t think of a more critical part of the world than the Middle East and I can’t think of a more critical player in affecting events in the region for good or for bad than Syria.”

Kerry spokesman David Wade said the senators were engaged in fact finding, not negotiating. “If Ronald Reagan could talk to the ‘evil empire,’ surely United States senators with a responsibility to American troops can visit Syria,” Wade said, referring to Reagan’s description of the former Soviet Union.

WASHINGTON, Dec 15 (YNet/AP)—The Bush Administration continues to signal that it is not taking seriously the Baker-Hamilton report.
Following a visit by Democratic Senator Bill Nelson to Syria two days ago, the American administration on Thursday gave unequivocal arguments for its refusal to hold direct talks with Damascus.
The White House was also not happy with the report’s recommendations on Iraq and the Pentagon has already advised that the US boosts it troops in Iraq by 10 to 15 thousand soldiers.

[...]
White House press secretary Tony Snow said the trip by Nelson, a member of the Armed Services and Foreign Relations committees, and future visits to Syria expected by Sens. John Kerry and Christopher Dodd, both Democrats, and Arlen Specter, a Republican, send an unhelpful, mixed message to the Syrians.

And he warned that the lawmakers could become ensnared in efforts by Damascus to burnish its image. “It may cost some people their credibility,” Snow said.
[...]
Nelson’s spokesman Dan McLaughlin called the remarks a “baseless attack” and said the White House was producing the “same old tired, mean-spirited partisan politics” that were unhelpful to the situation in Iraq. McLaughlin defended Nelson’s trip as par for the course for a senator who sits on three oversight committees: Armed Services, Foreign Relations and Intelligence.
“In Syria, he met with a man he’s met with twice before—not to negotiate, which is the president’s job, but to talk and gather facts and report back to Congress and the State Department,” McLaughlin said. “Senators meet with heads of state all the time.”


Senator Kerry and those like him are doing the peoples’ business by engaging with other players on the world stage in these trying times. Whether some of us might like it or not, the United States is not the only country on the planet, and trying to bully the rest of the world into submission to its arbitrary will is as insupportable as it is immoral.

Posted by Otter | 12/15/06, 04:46 AM EST

More coverage:

Senator Kerry says willing to go to Iran

December 15, 2006

CAIRO (Reuters) - U.S. Senator John Kerry said on Friday he was willing to go to Tehran to talk to Iranian leaders but would not have time during his current Middle East tour.

“I don’t have time and we were not able to make arrangements in the short timespan we had but I would be willing to go,” he told reporters in Cairo, the first stop on his tour.

Asked if he planned to make a trip later, he said: “At the appropriate time, at some point.”

Kerry, the Democratic candidate in the U.S. presidential election in 2004, is pressing the U.S. administration to reverse its policy of setting preconditions for dialogue with Syria and Iran.

He will visit Syria during his trip with fellow Democratic Senator Christopher Dodd. Both are members of the influential Senate Foreign Relations Committee.

http://www.boston.com/news/world/middleeast/articles/2006/12/15/senator_kerry_says_willing_to_go_to_iran

Kerry calls Bush refusal of dialogue with Iran, Syria “a mistake”

By Lee Keath, Associated Press Writer | December 15, 2006

CAIRO, Egypt—Sen. John Kerry, on a Mideast tour taking him to Damascus for talks with President Bashar Assad, said Friday that the Bush administration’s rejection of dialogue with Syria and Iran to try to calm Iraq is a mistake.

Kerry’s trip is the latest in a growing tussle between the White House and Congress over the recommendations of the Iraq Study Group, a bipartisan panel that called for talks with Iran and Syria to win their help in stabilizing war-torn Iraq.

The Massachusetts Democrat said his visit to Syria was “a fact-finding mission” to explore “what might or might not affect behavior with respect to Hezbollah, Lebanon, Israel and Iraq, where in each of those cases Syria is playing a role.”

“Dialogue is an important thing. It’s very hard to move the ball if you don’t know firsthand what people’s needs are, what their own perceptions are,” Kerry said in an interview with The Associated Press and several other journalists in Cairo.

http://www.boston.com/news/local/massachusetts/articles/2006/12/15/kerry_calls_bush_refusal_of_dialogue_with_iran_syria_a_mistake

Posted by ProSense | 12/15/06, 05:23 AM EST

It’s completely appropriate for members of the SFRC to engage with foreign leaders in the M.E., especially when the “commander-in-chief” can’t be bothered.  I particularly like the way Matt Browner-Hamlin at the Baltimore Group put it:

For one, it reminds the governments of the Middle East that the United States, contra Bush, is not George W. Bush. There are profound differences over how the US crafts our foreign policy and not all American leaders think sitting Syria and Iran in the proverbial corner with a dunces’ cap is the best strategy. Presenting a liberal vision for foreign policy with governments that have been shunned by the US for the last few years is a step forward.

Exactly. The more that Dems like Senator Kerry can show that the U.S. is NOT George Bush, the more we can show a different, better vision for how America can be in the world, the better it will be for America, and - hopefully - the more likely more Americans will wake up and continue to elect thinking, rational, mature people (usually Democrats) to run the country.

Posted by MH | 12/15/06, 05:57 AM EST

This is the sort of leadership I long to see in our country. This is the reason why the rest of the world respects John Kerry. It’s one of the many reasons I respect him. I’m glad that we have people like him out there trying to neutralize some of the damage our president has done to our ability to get along with the rest of the world. It’s a dangerous trip, and Senator Kerry has my utmost appreciation for undertaking it.

Posted by Meredith | 12/15/06, 06:16 AM EST

As usual, John Kerry is being a leader, and finding out first hand what’s happening with our troops and the key regional players.

The contrast with DimWit in Chief as petulant and slow-witted child is striking. Dumbya will spend the next few weeks/months on a PR tour laying out his ‘careful consideration’ to the American people, only to come out in the end with some lame, half-baked political *** covering plan… a plan birthed, like all of DimWit’s plans, in the bubble of monosyllabic head-patting that has exemplified the guidance of his inner circle.

Pathetic.

‘Careful Consideration’ would have been really useful oh, say, three years ago… Now, it’s just way too complex for little George.

Please, somebody buy him a baseball team…

Posted by Victoria Ellen | 12/15/06, 07:05 AM EST

Thanks for posting and keeping us up to speed, Violet!  To paraphrase something a certain Senator said a coulple years ago: Americans are ready for a grown-up foreign policy!  Dialogue with Syria is a great idea and about time, and many thanks to Senators Dodd and Kerry (and Specter and Nelson and others who might decide to defy the WH’s shortsightedness) for taking this on.

Posted by democrafty | 12/15/06, 07:31 AM EST

As an Arab-American, and supporter of Senator Kerry I appreciate his leadership with regards to Syria and Iran.  However, we must remind the Senator that the price for Syria’s cooperation must not be Lebanon.  Bush senior and James Baker made that mistake once when soliciting Syria’s help in Desert Storm.  This cannot be allowed to happen again.  Syria’s hegemony over Lebanon turned that country into a terrorist haven for nearly thirty years.  Today Lebanon is a fledgling, pro-western democracy, the only such democracy in the Arab world. If we sellout the Lebanese again, the consequences will be enormous.  Doing so would create an Iranian sphere of influence including such countries as Iraq, Lebanon, Syria and potentially Bahrain, thus threatening key Sunni allies such as Saudi Arabia, Kuait, and Egypt.  We should all be in favor of dialogue but we must always be mindful of the price.

Posted by John Boustani | 12/15/06, 11:47 AM EST

Thank you Senator Kerry!

Senator Kerry’s trip to the Middle East once again reminds us what could have been in 2004 and what can be in 2008.  We need American leaders who are willing to risk the war of words rather than the war of ‘shock & awe’.  While there are times we cannot avoid military actions; it is not weakness to be willing to speak with your foes.

Robert Freedland
John Kerry for President 2008

Posted by Robert Freedland | 12/15/06, 01:01 PM EST

Well, one thing we know about Senator Kerry is that he will always be respectful to those in office; but that he is also unlikely to allow himself to be poked with a stick without making sure the proper boundaries are understood by all concerned.

Several comments already noted above how the White House was going out of its way to spin down and sandbag the efforts of Senator Kerry and his colleagues from both sides of the aisle—efforts aimed at engaging other countries in the Middle East in dialogues that might help to find some reasonable solutions to the hellish quagmire that we’ve all been dragged down into in Iraq courtesy of the discredited neocon agenda.

He and the others who are pursuing those logical, rational, reality-based initiatives are now responding to the White House’s spin campaigns. Here’s just one example, as published online by CBS News at http://tinyurl.com/v5hwf

(AP) Sen. John Kerry, on a Mideast tour taking him to Damascus for talks with President Bashar Assad, said Friday that the Bush administration’s rejection of dialogue with Syria and Iran to try to calm Iraq is a mistake.

Kerry’s trip is the latest in a growing tussle between the White House and Congress over the recommendations of the Iraq Study Group, a bipartisan panel that called for talks with Iran and Syria to win their help in stabilizing war-torn Iraq.

The Massachusetts Democrat said his visit to Syria was “a fact-finding mission” to explore “what might or might not affect behavior with respect to Hezbollah, Lebanon, Israel and Iraq, where in each of those cases Syria is playing a role.”

“Dialogue is an important thing. It’s very hard to move the ball if you don’t know firsthand what people’s needs are, what their own perceptions are,” Kerry said in an interview with The Associated Press and several other journalists in Cairo.

Kerry said he was “willing” to go to Iran for talks but had no current plans to do so.

[snip]

Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice soundly rejected any talks with Syria and Iran in an interview with The Washington Post, saying any “compensation” they demand would be too high and that they should act on their own if they want stability in Iraq.

Kerry called the refusal to talk to Syria and Iran “a mistake. I think it’s the kind of policy that’s got us into trouble in the reason and it needs to change.”

The former Democratic presidential candidate underlined that he was not engaging in negotiations with Damascus.

“Talking to somebody is not rewarding their behavior. I have no illusions about our differences with these countries ... and nothing in the discussion is based on trust,” he said. “But you cannot get to (action and verifiability) without setting up the modalities. So you have to engage in some dialogue.

“Now that the Democrats are in control of Congress, we have an even larger responsibility to set a direction ... as a counterbalance to policies that have gotten us into trouble.”

Kerry, who met Thursday with Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak, was heading to Jordan, then to Iraq. He visits Damascus early next week, where he will hold talks with Assad. He also planned stops in Lebanon, Israel and the West Bank in the nine-day tour.

Posted by Otter | 12/15/06, 01:56 PM EST

Reuters has some positive coverage of JK’s trip.  No spin good or bad.  Just the way journalism is suppose to be. 

How much more proof do you need to see that if you take away the spin and just give facts, the truth is clear.  Real leadership and real diplomacy and real plans comes from an honest attempt to be an honest broker. 

This is what John Kerry has always done. 

He is a skillful diplomat and a skillful leader.

Posted by Tia | 12/15/06, 02:43 PM EST

Great to see - reading every word!

Posted by DiAnne | 12/15/06, 03:28 PM EST

What the Washington Post reported:

http://tinyurl.com/y2672z

“Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice yesterday rejected a bipartisan panel’s recommendation that the United States seek the help of Syria and Iran in Iraq, saying the “compensation” required by any deal might be too high.”

MIGHT be too high.  She doesn’t have a clue what would be required, because she won’t talk to anyone who might not agree with her. Just like Bush. 

Honestly, I think she just doesn’t know how.

“Diplomacy is the art of letting someone have your way.” - Daniele Vare

Posted by GV | 12/15/06, 03:28 PM EST

John Boustani wrote about his concern over giving away the store to Syria and enabling them to ride roughshod over Lebanon.

I remember this Q&A that Sen. Kerry did after his speech at Georgetown.  One of the questioners asked the Senator about Syria and Kerry was not too optimistic about the state of affairs in that country.  (This was in Oct of 2005, well before the war in Lebanon this summer.)

Sen. Kerry said that Syria was and is likely to be a ‘bad actor’ in the Middle East for a good while to come. He did not trust them and he was deeply concerned that a change of leadership in Damascus might even produce something worse. Based on those comments, I don’t think Kerry expects the Syrians to suddenly become ‘the good guys’ in this situation at all. Syria will try and do what benefits Syria and it seems to me, based on his comments since, that Sen. Kerry would be very, very careful in dealing with them.

I think the US has to make peaceful overtures to those who might have a hand in stabilizing Iraq. The Shia in Iran and Syria have a piece of that puzzle.  That doens’t mean that you roll over for these people, but there is a need to have an open channel to talk to them.  (Warily.) I am glad Sen. Kerry is doing this. I think he has a grasp of the greater picture and what Syria and Iran hope to gain from this. The White House is hoping to spin it some other way, as if people like Chris Dodd and John Kerry, who between them have decades of experience with foreign policy, have no idea what the stakes are. They are not the ones who are clueless here.

Posted by TayTay | 12/15/06, 03:48 PM EST

Sen. Kerry is way out of Control. He has no business going over to The middle East. They are our enemies. Sen. Kerry has put his foot in his mouth too many times these past few years. What on God’s Green Earth is he going to say over there. Sen. needs to remember that we are at War. We have a President whether you like him or not who makes the decisions. Sen Kerry could cause more confrontations by going over there and talking about our President. Talk about adding fuel to the fire. Shame on the Senator

Posted by Judith | 12/15/06, 08:47 PM EST

Evan Bayh has done an abrupt about face and dropped out of the ‘08 race, just one week after an appearance in NH and 2 weeks after announcing he was forming an exploratory committee: Bayh Out of ‘08 Race.

Posted by Pamela Leavey | 12/15/06, 10:05 PM EST

Sir,

I am not one of your supporters when it comes to this trip to the Middle East. It is my belief that our Senators and Representatives duty is to represent their constituents in Washington D.C. and not represent the nation abroad.

I would hope that you would respect the chain of command and let our Ambassadors, State Department Personnel, and yes President Bush.

It is not your job to negotiate with any foreign power and in my opinion all you are doing is undermining the efforts of the current administration during a time of war.

I am a Republican, but I still respect your years of service to this Great Nation of ours. I hope that you will realize that this trip, although good intentioned, will do nothing but create further animosity between the parties, and possibly hurt more than it could possibly help.

God Bless and Merry Christmas!

Posted by Kevin Fitzpatrick | 12/16/06, 01:54 AM EST

Sen. Arlen Specter, a 26-year Senate Republican, said he will visit Syria despite loud objections by the Bush administration, contending the situation in Iraq is so dire that it is time Congress step up to the plate and see what it can do.

http://tinyurl.com/tntzy


I think it’s significant that Sen Specter has decided ‘enough is enough’, and has bucked the White House by announcing a trip to Syria.

Let’s just hope he doesn’t cave this time.  He does have a history of taking a stand against the administration, then backing down when push comes to shove.

For now, though, I have to give my senior Senator props for doing the right thing.  I only hope Sen Kerry’s leadership and the ISG report will embolden others to do the same.

This isn’t a Democratic issue or a Republican issue.  As Sen Kerry so correctly states, it’s a moral issue.

Thanks and safe travels to Senators Kerry, Specter, Dodd and others who are willing to stand up and speak out.

Posted by GV | 12/16/06, 02:03 AM EST

Kevin, Although I appreciate your opinion and respect your point of view, I have to say I couldn’t disagree with you more strongly regarding the Senator’s trip to the Middle East.  The Senators, (several of them, Democratic and Republican, not just Sen Kerry), are fact finding, something the Bush administration seems to have no desire to do.

The Congress agrees with the ISG and with a vast majority of Americans that there is no military solution in Iraq.  http://tinyurl.com/yj2ejd
  The solution must come through diplomacy, and Pres Bush and Ms Rice seem to have no idea how to make that happen.  While they’re sitting back waiting for God knows what and letting our men and women fight and die in a war that can not be ended without the cooperation of the Middle East neighbors, these brave legislators are looking for answers.  They can not be expected to vote for legislation related to the war without knowing the situation on the ground.  Kevin, this IS their job.

Senator Specter calls the situation ‘dire’.The ISG report calls it ‘grave and deteriorating’.  Seventy one percent of Americans think we need a change of course.

We can not continue to talk only to our friends, Kevin.  No conflict is resolved by ignoring it.  If Bush was doing his job effectively, it wouldn’t be necessary for our senators to go to the Middle East. As it stands, thank God someone is doing the work necessary to try to bring an end to the conflict.

Enough is Enough.

Posted by GV | 12/16/06, 02:30 AM EST

While I’ve long stopped calling GWB by any nickname (he is not a child, he is an adult, he is responsible and accountable for his actions), I have yet to call his tenure in our White House as anything other than a “misAdministration.” 

There are millions of people in this country who do not think GWB took the highest office in our land by legal means in 2000, who do not think he represents this country or the thinking of people who live in this country, not to mention our Constitution and Bill of Rights.

John Kerry is a grownup, I’ve said that for years now.  In my thinking, he has long represented the “grownup wing of grownup Americans” and I personally couldn’t be happier or more relieved to know he’s taken his intelligence, integrity, good sense overseas. John Kerry can represent me any day of the week.

Bless you and thank you John Kerry.  Your actions have always spoken louder than your words.

Posted by kj | 12/16/06, 03:23 AM EST

Legend has it God spoke to Mother Teresa and told her to go to India and help the poor; she followed the directions, but didn’t heard from Him again.

Legend has it God spoke to GWB and told him to go to Iraq and start a war; he followed the directions, but apparently he hasn’t heard back from Him again.

Moral of the story:  If God speaks to you about helping the poor, it’s probably a safe bet to go ahead and follow that Voice in your head and heart. But if God tells you to go to war… but doesn’t tell you how to stop warring, it’s probably a good idea to stay right where you are and ask for help with that Voice in your head and get a second and third opinion about the health of your heart.

Posted by kj | 12/16/06, 03:34 AM EST

Posted by Judith | December 16, 2006 1:47 AM

Judith writes:
“He has no business going over to The middle East.  They are our enemies.”

Judith, you’re correct, they aren’t friends, but isn’t that the point?  If we were all pals, there would be no urgent need. Obviously, you believe it’s important to talk to people with whom you disagree.  Isn’t that why you’re here?  To present your point of view to people who have opposing positions?

As for “having no business”, Senator Kerry is a United States Senator and member of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee.  This is his job.

How can we lead the world, Judith, if we won’t talk to it?  Bush and Rice are acting like a couple of petulant third graders.  They don’t like what Syria and Iran MIGHT say, so they just refuse to have the discussion.  That is not diplomacy, it’s childishness.
The world needs to see that we still have grown up leadership in the US.  That’s what this trip will accomplish.  We are not isolationists, we are leaders.  That’s a role this administration has refused to embrace.

Over three and a half years, and Bush has still not explained why he got us into this mess.  How much longer are we supposed to wait until he lets us know how he plans to get us out?  He may be the self anointed “decider”, but what have his decisions accomplished?  They’ve gotten us involved in a half a trillion dollar war with absolutely no exit strategy.  Mr Bush needs to listen, for once, to other points of view.

Bush’s plan continues to be ‘stay the course’.  He’s just not calling it that. Nothing has changed.

Meanwhile, people are dying.

Posted by Catherine | 12/16/06, 04:42 AM EST

Judith:

Mr. Kerry does have business going over to the Middle East. It’s the peoples’ business, which means it’s my business, and yours as well. It’s part of his job description. Among his other duties he is a ranking member of the Foreign Relations Committee, as you might recall (or as you’ll have noticed from the news stories and posts here in this same thread.)

And as you’ll also have noticed from those same news stories and posts in this thread (assuming you’ve taken the time to actually read them), other senators are making similar trips at this time, including long-time conservative Republicans like Arlen Specter. It’s part of their job descriptions too.

Of course we are at war—what a great many people consider to be an illegal, immoral, unnecessary war of adventure as opposed to a legitimate effort to defend our country and its citizens from attack.

Even those who do still consider the decision of invading Iraq to have been a valid one have now been publicly admitting that the decisions that followed it, the decisions on how to prosecute the war and manage its inevitable aftermath, have been totally and terribly botched.

The decision-making president that you are so quick to defend (without pausing to consider the logic or rationality behind your comments first) has now declared that he is going to ignore the recommendations of the gold-star bipartisan commission that he so ostentatiously appointed and go right on deciding things he way he wants to decide them anyway. Full speed ahead and damn the torpedoes, as the saying goes.

But that’s not what you came here to discuss, Judith. (Well, actually, I suspect that you didn’t actually come here to discuss anything, just to drop a drive-by attack comment and then vanish into the hazy red fog again.)

Your point is that Mr. Kerry is undermining the president’s authority and going against the interests of the country by going to the Middle East and doing the job his constituents have spent the last twenty years re-electing him to do. That’s specious reasoning at best, and you know it (or at least you should, if you’ve bothered to read the comments that others wrote in this thread before you even joined the conversation.)

Your other point is that Mr. Kerry is, as you put it, “out of control”—that he is a loose cannon, a random actor, someone who is unfit to lead. That’s not merely specious reasoning, it’s a right-wing talking point that’s currently being pushed downstream by those who are afraid of his proven ability to think clearly about complex situations and to provide effective solutions to difficult problems.

As noted above (and noted, and noted again), Mr. Kerry is an experienced, thoughtful, judicious leader who has a valuable role to perform in the government of our country; a leader who has a valid set of legitimate, important reasons to be sitting down with leaders of other countries that have their own interests at stake in extricating Iraq from the horrible mess that your decisive president took the lead in bringing down upon the heads of its people.

So thanks for posting here anyway, Judith. It’s clear from your remarks that you have not given any thought to what you chose to say here, that you are merely repeating spin points that others have fed to you. But we appreciate having the chance to provide the facts to counter your dubious claims and to present the truths that counter your irrational beliefs. Make of them what you will.

Posted by M. Loutre | 12/16/06, 05:10 AM EST

Senator Kerry’s trip to the Mideast is a much needed, long neglected try at diplomacy.
Talking to the leaders of Egypt, Syria, Iraq, and possibly even Iran is a first step towards resolving what seems to have become an impossible situation.
Bush would do well to listen to the findings of the Senator and his colleagues upon their return .

Posted by Kerstin | 12/16/06, 07:06 AM EST

Senator Kerry isn’t the only one going to the Middle East, of course. And as this article from the Hartford Courant makes clear, his and the others’ visits to the trouble area are not about political self-aggrandizement, or dissing the presidency,  or anything of that self-serving sort at all:

WASHINGTON—Sen. Christopher J. Dodd will conduct his own Middle East peace talks beginning this week as he plans to visit the leaders of Iraq, Syria, Jordan, Lebanon and Israel.

Dodd, a Connecticut Democrat, will be accompanied by Sen. John F. Kerry, D-Mass., both of whom are possible 2008 presidential contenders. Both also are veteran members of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, and have long criticized the Bush administration for not using diplomacy to cool tensions in the Middle East.

[snip]

The meetings in Syria, which are expected to involve President Bashar Assad, are particularly sensitive. The State Department advised Dodd to forgo a trip to Syria in April. This time, the State Department has expressed concerns but is not blocking the visit.

Dodd said he hopes to talk to Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice to see if she wants him to convey any messages to Syria.

“It helps dramatically when alternative voices can carry the same message,” he said Tuesday.

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The two senators apparently will be the first to hold high-level talks in Syria since the February 2005 assassination of Lebanese Prime Minister Rafiq Hariri.

Hariri was a critic of Syria’s involvement in Lebanon, and Syria has been accused of involvement in the killing. A U.N. commission is investigating, and Syria has been cooperating.

Analysts saw the senators’ visit as the start of a possible U.S. thaw toward Syria. White House officials are said to be divided over whether to engage Syria and Iran, so it’s hard to say what the senators’ trip could mean, said Mackenzie Eaglen, national security analyst at Washington’s Heritage Foundation. “It could be purely educational,” she said.

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The senators plan meetings in Iraq next week with Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki and President Jalal Talabani, as well as Connecticut troops and U.S. officials.

They also expect to have talks in Israel with Prime Minister Ehud Olmert and, separately, with Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas. They plan to meet in Lebanon with Prime Minister Fuad Saniora—but not representatives of Hezbollah—and in Jordan with King Abdullah II.

Dodd and Kerry both voted to give President Bush broad authority to wage war in Iraq in 2002. Since then, Kerry has led a 2006 Senate bid to set a troop-withdrawal timetable. Dodd opposed that plan, but said in October that the U.S. must begin immediately to reposition its Iraq troops and finish that job in 12 to 18 months.

Dodd also is among the senators urging the administration to engage other nations in the region to help stabilize Iraq, a view the White House has been loathe to embrace. Last week’s bipartisan Iraq Study Group report urged talks with Iran and Syria, but the administration has said Syria must stop supporting militant groups such as Hezbollah, and Iran has to end its uranium enrichment initiatives.

Dodd said Tuesday he expected no sudden change in policy or attitude. “I’m not going to suggest one U.S. senator going to Syria will change everything,” he said, “but it’s important they hear directly from those of us in the Senate about concerns we have. ... It’s important we start that process.”

 

Posted by Otter | 12/16/06, 07:57 AM EST

M. Loutre: while JK certainly outranks many Senators in terms of [a**]-kickery, Senator Biden was actually the ranking member of the SFRC in the 109th Congress.  When Senator Biden becomes committee chair next year, the next top-ranking Dem will be Senator Dodd, who is touring the ME with JK at the moment, followed by JK. 

This is an easy mistake to make, because, for my money, the tough and cogent question stylings of JK and Senator Boxer make the SFRC hearings some of the best entertainment on any of the C-SPAN networks.  (If that sounded insincere, I assure you, it was not.)

Posted by democrafty | 12/16/06, 08:37 AM EST

Globe reports Senator Kerry is in Baghdad today:

http://tinyurl.com/snqrs

Godspeed, Senator, our prayers are with you.

Posted by MH | 12/16/06, 10:00 AM EST

Judith and Kevin, while I respect your opinions and appreciate your taking the time to comment here, I would have to disagree with your views that this trip is somehow not part of Senator Kerry’s “job”.

Please note that Senator Kerry has explicitly stated that he will not engage in negotiations, is just doing fact-finding:

The former Democratic presidential candidate underlined that he was not engaging in negotiations with Damascus. “Talking to somebody is not rewarding their behavior. I have no illusions about our differences with these countries ... and nothing in the discussion is based on trust,” Kerry said. “But you cannot get to (action and verifiability) without setting up the modalities. So you have to engage in some dialogue.”

I think it makes sense, as a member of the Foreign Relations Committee, charged with certain responsibilities regarding foreign policy, that Senator Kerry and other members visit these nations where the decisions are so critical.  It is too important to our nation for Congress to simply bow to the wishes of the executive branch. I think our Founding Fathers got it right when they created 3 branches of government with shared responsibilities and control.

Posted by MH | 12/16/06, 10:27 AM EST

Thank-you for this blog conversation. I have not had an opportunity to read the blog for awhile, but it is clear that Senator Kerry and others are doing the heavy lifting that the Executive Branch seems unwilling or unable to perform.

To say that these visits undermine the Executive Branch implies that the Executive Branch has a policy that could be derailed by these conversations. Clearly there is no such policy, and it is only by virtue of negative and pessimistic critiques of the many different Senators’ visits that people will be railroaded into believing that America’s interests are being sabotoged.

It is time that the critics admit that the President has absolutely no clear plan.
It is time the critics admit that empty slogans will not save American lives.
It is time that the critics admit that the President’s disastrous policy has seriously injured our country far more than any Senator who is talking to Arab leaders.
It is time the critics admit that America is considered a terrorist nation by many others in the world.
It is time that the critics understand that they are in the minority and start thinking for themselves why that might be.
It is time that the critics admit that the President’s corporate friends have profitted on the deaths of American soldiers and innocent Iraqis.

I have grown tired of those who are willing to sacrifice young Americans in order to placate a liar, cheater and thief, and am proud to see Senator Kerry and others looking for realistic solutions to end this obscenity.

Posted by oncall | 12/16/06, 10:52 AM EST

Hello, I’ve just read a little about visits to various countries and regions in the middle east being a “fact-finding mission”!  Well, hallelujah!  It’s about time!

Why is it that the American administration gets to choose, without justification, which governments CAN be spoken to and which can’t?  I’m Australian and my problem is that if your Prez tells our PM - NO!  You must never speak to them!  We don’t.  We can’t.  We’re not allowed to!

There have been terrorists since there has been human occupation on the planet.  It is a fact of the continuum of life and the greed of the human condition.  Neanderthal terrorists probably used rocks to barricade the doors, air and waterways to starve out whole populations who were in the way. 

Not a lot has changed really.  Todays most frightening terrorists are the ones who dress in expensive suits spreading their comfort across the globe.  How lucky we are to have these terrorists sending our armies off to protect us against their designated *enemy* terrorists.  Our presidents, prime ministers and dictators who cheated, or were elected, into the top job of our countries are the scariest terrorists I know of. 

Alexander Downer our Foreign minister (well, he’s certainly foreign to most Australians) stood between Mme Rice and the simply-smiling Brendan Nelson, our Minister for War in Iraq, I think, and said, “Australia is not a fair-weather friend.  We will be with you (no matter how murderous and disastrous your strategy) to the end (till we are dead).”  Don’t we make great friends?  Not a brain cell between those 3 Decision-Enactors.

Now ....... wherever these leaders tell us not to go ..... whoever they tell us we must not talk to ........ they are the very people we need to find, communicate with (includes a LOT of listening and respecting) and convince ourselves that we ALL want the same thing - and it’s not oil!  Most of us - apart from the greed machines of the corporate west - want peace and social justice across the world.  Doesn’t seem like too much to wish for.

Thanks John Kerry for demonstrating reason in this debacle.

Posted by woz | 12/16/06, 03:31 PM EST

“Sen Kerry could cause more confrontations by going over there and talking about our President. Talk about adding fuel to the fire. Shame on the Senator”

Posted by Judith | December 16, 2006 1:47 AM

Judith.  I’m stunned.  Do you really think Sen Kerry went all the way to the middle east to completely and utterly waste his time by talking about Your President?  He could have done that far more cheaply right there in the US.  The majority of this world’s population finds Your President the most boring, unintelligent and pompous little megalomaniac we’ve been unfortunate enough to witness and frankly we wouldn’t waste our words about him. 

Senator Kerry went to have DIALOGUE (not a Bush-Monosyllabic-Monologue) with various governments in the middle-east.  The least-useful topic for discussion would have been your loathsome president!

I’m Australian, I get to say these things.

Posted by woz | 12/16/06, 04:39 PM EST

Welcome Woz,

It is so refreshing to see people from around the world come here with a voice of reason. As you can tell, some of the sheeple (Judith) would rather go along with more of the same, which you put quite rightly in place with your words of reason and common sense.

I will tell you this the world and all of its people are missing out on a principled leader like John Kerry. If we all continue to let power rule us, we are all doomed.

Please stop by again, we are mostly reasoned individuals here, although we do have a few that drop by that are still drinking the kool-aid (they have no idea how to think on their own so they just go along with more of the same).

You are correct ” Most of us want peace and social justice across the world.” That is why we are here and in support of Senator Kerry, for he wants the same.

Peace.

Posted by fedup | 12/17/06, 07:05 AM EST