JK Chairing SFRC Hearings on Pakistan
This afternoon Senator Kerry is chairing a set of timely and important Senate Foreign Relations Committee hearings titled “Pakistan’s Future: Building Democracy, Or Fueling Extremism?”
The hearings are being broken up into two panels, with separate witnesses for each. Panel 1 consists of R. Nicholas Burns, the State Department’s Under Secretary for Political Affairs. Panel 2 consists of Teresita C. Schaffer, South Asia Program Director for the Center for Strategic and International Studies; Dr. Samina Ahmed, South Asia Project Director for the Islamabad-based nternational Crisis Group; and Dr. Stephen P. Cohen, Senior Fellow, Foreign Policy Studies for the Brookings Institution.
We’ll have a follow-up entry here on the JK blog with highlights from these hearings with their question-and-answer sessions once the transcripts are available. In the meanwhile, here are Senator Kerry’s introductory statements as prepared for each of the two panels:
Panel 1: Nicholas Burns
Ambassador Burns, thank you coming before the Committee today. As we all know, Ambassador Burns has had a long and distinguished career as a Foreign Service Officer, serving as U.S. Permanent Representative to NATO, Ambassador to Greece, and State Department spokesman, as well as on the National Security Council staff. He is currently the Under Secretary of State for Political Affairs, making him the third ranking official at the State Department, with oversight responsibility for U.S. policy throughout the world.
He is also from Massachusetts, a graduate of Boston College, and a life-long Red Sox fan—so we know he understands how to persevere through great adversity.
Ambassador Burns, this is clearly a pivotal moment in Pakistan. Our intelligence agencies have just issued a dire warning about the threat posed by Al Qaeda in the tribal areas, the Taliban is using Pakistani territory as a base for attacks in Afghanistan, there has been major increase in extremist violence following the attack on the Red Mosque, and the political turmoil surrounding the ouster and reinstatement of Chief Justice Chaudhry has put President Musharraf in a precarious position with new elections scheduled for the fall. We very much look forward to hearing your views on these issues and the Administration’s strategy for Pakistan going forward.
We all recognize that Pakistan is a key ally in the region, and our relationship is one of the most important – and complex – relationships we have anywhere in the world. We need to make clear to Pakistan – both the government and the people – that we are committed to sustaining and building on this relationship over the long term in a manner that serves both of our countries’ interests.
We also appreciate the significant contributions and sacrifices the Pakistanis have made in the fight against Al Qaeda. At the same time, it is clear that our current strategy in Pakistan has not been working as well as it can – and must—when it comes to our core objectives of fighting terrorism and promoting democracy. We understand that it is a delicate balance between moving Pakistan in a more positive direction and not causing a major rupture in the relationship. I hope we will come away from today’s hearing with a better understanding of the Administration’s plans, and how we can all work to build an effective long term strategy.
Clearly, the most pressing and direct national security concern we face in Pakistan is the resurgence of Al Qaeda in the tribal regions bordering Afghanistan. We were all deeply troubled by the recent National Intelligence Estimate entitled “The Terrorist Threat to the U.S. Homeland” which made clear that while we have been distracted and bogged down in Iraq, Al Qaeda has grown stronger than at any time since 9/11.
The NIE brought home in the starkest possible terms that Al Qaeda has “regenerated key elements of its homeland attack capability, including: a safe haven in the Pakistan Federally Administered Tribal Areas (FATA), operational lieutenants, and its top leadership.” Osama Bin Laden and top Al Qaeda leaders are likely still hiding out somewhere in the region, and none of us here need to be reminded of the nightmare scenario of Pakistan’s nuclear arsenal falling into the wrong hands.
We also know that the Taliban is using the tribal areas as a base for launching attacks against coalition forces in Afghanistan, and our generals tell us that Taliban leaders have maintained a headquarters in Quetta. It is clear that we cannot succeed in the vital mission of stabilizing Afghanistan if the enemies of the coalition and the Karzai government enjoy a safe haven right across the border.
General Eikenberry, the former commanding general in Afghanistan, summed it up simply: “Al Qaeda and Taliban leadership presence inside Pakistan…must be satisfactorily addressed if we are to prevail in Afghanistan and if we are to defeat the global threat posed by international terrorism.” In other words, the central front in the fight against terrorism is right where it has always been: along the Afghanistan-Pakistan border. We simply cannot allow history to repeat itself, and many of us are concerned that we do not have an effective strategy to counter this threat.
Our intelligence community has linked the resurgence of Al Qaeda and the Taliban in this area directly to an agreement that President Musharraf struck with tribal leaders in Waziristan. I traveled to Pakistan around that time, and even then many of us had real concerns about the deal. The Administration has now finally acknowledged that it has not worked for Pakistan, and it has not worked for the United States. After the attack on the Red Mosque, even Taliban declared the deal was dead—and we have seen increased presence of Pakistani troops in the area since then.
Yet still, we hear that President Musharraf is actually trying to revive that agreement. Going back to a failed strategy is not the answer. The Administration has also made it clear that they have not ruled out U.S. military options in the area. We must be prepared to use force if necessary to protect our interests, but sending U.S. ground troops into Pakistani territory raises many difficult issues for us and for Pakistan.
We also have a five year, $750 million dollar plan for winning over the local population in this area, but real concerns have been raised about whether that money can actually be put to good use. We will be very interested to hear your views on the Administration’s strategy for dealing with this very real threat in both the short and long term.
We must also consider the role of U.S. aid in advancing our interests. Since 9/11, we have given Pakistan roughly $10 billion dollars in aid—and likely billions more in covert assistance. Roughly 75% of this aid has gone to reimbursement of counter-terrorism expenses and other security assistance. We clearly have a right to expect more in return for the massive amount of aid we are providing for the fight against terrorism.
At the same time, less than 10% of our aid goes to development and humanitarian assistance, and we must give strong consideration to whether targeting more aid to projects that help the Pakistani people directly would be more effective. One area we should pay particular attention to is funding for education, which the 9/11 Commission emphasized was key to promoting moderation – this is especially important given that more than half of Pakistan’s population is under 15 years of age.
We have also reached a critical period for the future of democracy in Pakistan. It is clear that reinforcing our strong commitment to democracy, human rights, and respect for the rule of law is in the best interests of Pakistan and the United States.
President Musharraf’s term is set to expire this fall, and under Pakistani law the National and Provincial Assemblies must conduct new presidential elections by October, with new legislative elections to follow. The Pakistani Supreme Court may have to rule on whether President Musharraf can stay on in his role as chief of the military, and whether he can legally be re-elected by a lame duck Parliament. Now that Chief Justice Chaudhry has been reinstated to the Court, there appears to be a strong possibility that it will rule against President Musharraf on these questions.
We need to be prepared for this eventuality, and the possibility that President Musharraf may leave or be forced out of office. In fact, although he may be hedging on this now, President Musharraf has said in the past that he will relinquish his military role, and Khurshid Kasuri, the Foreign Minister of Pakistan, said during his recent visit that President Musharraf was still planning to do so. We must make it clear that we expect President Musharraf to live up to his promise.
It is also critically important that the upcoming elections are free and fair, and we should work to ensure they are conducted transparently and legitimately. This will send a very important message of support to the people of Pakistan, who are increasingly insistent on restoring true democratic rule, and will help to undermine extremists. We must also continue to raise our strong concerns over unexplained disappearance of some 400 people, the arrest of hundreds of political activists from opposition parties, and the recent crackdown on the media.
Finally, we must also consider Pakistan’s relationship with India, especially when it comes to Kashmir, the security of Pakistan’s nuclear arsenal, and the current status of our efforts to ensure that the proliferation disaster we experienced with the A.Q. Khan network is never repeated.
Thank you again for being here today.
Panel 2: T. Schaffer / S.Ahmed / S. Cohen
I’d like to welcome our distinguished panelists, Ambassador Schaffer, Dr. Ahmed, and Dr. Cohen, to the Committee today. Thank you all for taking the time to testify, we really appreciate having the benefit of your insights.
Ambassador Schaffer has had long and distinguished career, first as a Foreign Service Officer serving in Islamabad, New Delhi, and Dhaka, then as ambassador to Sri Lanka and Deputy Assistant Secretary of State for South Asia. She currently serves as Director of South Asia studies at CSIS.
Dr. Ahmed is South Asia Project Director for the International Crisis Group. She brings a unique and invaluable perspective from her extensive experience on the ground in Pakistan, where she was worked at the Institute of Regional Studies in Islamabad and Karachi. I had the opportunity to hear from Dr. Ahmed yesterday and look forward to continuing our discussion today.
Dr. Steven Cohen comes to us today from the Brookings Institution, where he is a Senior Fellow for Foreign Policy. Before that he served on the Department of State’s Policy Planning Staff. He is widely recognized as a leading expert on Pakistan, and in addition to teaching for many years at the University of Illinois, Georgetown and elsewhere, he is the author of numerous books on Pakistan, India and nonproliferation issues.
We are fortunate to have such a knowledgeable and distinguished panel of experts here with us today. We look forward to hearing your views on the current situation in Pakistan and where we go from here. Welcome.

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Thank you very much for this informative post. I’m watching the first hearing right now; it’s fascinating and extremely important. We’ll hope to have video highlights up on KerryVision (http://www.kerryvision.net) tomorrow.
JK demonstrates incredible knowledge of the full situation in Pakistan, backed up by his visits there. I’m so glad he is holding this hearing and very impressed, so far, by Nicholas Burns. Learning a lot!
Thanks for this post, very useful to have the remarks as we watch the hearing!
Thanks, Rick. I’m astounded to read some of the facts that Sen. Kerry has mentioned here, i.e., how much money we’ve given Pakistan for counter terror expenses.
Our current administration has been way too lenient with Pakistan’s current president/government, and especially so since the country is clearly a safe haven for terrorist groups.
If we’re serious about fighting the GWOT, then hopefully hearings like this one today will generate concrete recommendations & action plans.
I look forward to reading/hearing more about this.
The American public has been fleeced, divided, and setup for a dismal future of recovering ground that has been ceded on a global basis by an absolutely ignorant foreign policy, bent on who knows what.
Thanks Rick, for bringing this info forward… now, how can we get others to listen to REASON????
Hey Rick,
Very informative post. Thanks for bring the truth telling to light!
Wow, that’s a lot of money in aid for next to nothing from Pakistan. The turmoil there has been escalating and Bush is where he always is: MIA.
Nice post. Thanks.
Rick, Yours is an important post. When we consider that one half a trillion dollars has been wasted to pursue a policy guided by revenge (the son reacting to an attempted assassination against his father), one has to consider that the decisions to develop a coherent, cohesive foreign policy can not be left in the hands of a belligerent, nincompoop.
The threat of terrorism is real, but those determined to cause chaos will ignore our attempts unless we can convince governments in Asia and the Middle East we mean what we say. As long as we linger in Iraq, any and all attempts to convince other governments to take our advice will be for naught.
Thanks, Rick for posting this. Pakistan does make me very nervous, largely due to their nuclear status. I hope that it can remain a fairly stable country. If anyone is interested in reading about the region, I read a great book following 9/11 called “Taliban” (the author’s name escapes me at the moment). Although it was about the Taliban and Afghanistan, there is quite a bit written about Pakistan in it as well (and the author is Pakistani).
Rick, I missed the hearing today, and now you’ve tempted me with the intro. Hopefully I can catch it on the KV, I really do need to learn more about Pakistan.
I can NOT believe how successfully Bush and co. have diverted the American people’s attention from al-Qaeda and the real threat. Bush said ‘al-Qaeda’ 95 times in his speech yesterday, and didn’t say ‘Pakistan’ once. Of course, he didn’t say ‘plan’ or ‘diplomacy’ either. Not surprised.
Thanks for the post. Looking forward to watching the hearing.
Rick,
I missed the hearing as well, but it’s good to see some of the focus return to Pakistan. Pakistan has been presented to us by our media as being our ally in the ‘war against al-Qaeda, and yet as the NIE reports, they are not sufficiently upholding their end of the bargain to eliminate it.
John Kerry is right. Pakistan needs to be handled delicately (due to their nuclear capacity and their ability to stop al-Qaeda from reproducing in their country) but they also have to be forced to make sure they do as they promised.
Half a trillion dollars is quite a lot of money to throw to a government that is not keeping its side of the bargain. Could this money be used as bargaining chips? Or is it more that the money we threw to Iraq and the time and energy into Iraq has left the Afghanistan border too easily infiltrated so that half a trillion dollars is not enough?!
I’m not sure. So much of our focus has been diverted. So I thank you and Senator Kerry for putting the spotlight on Pakistan.