JK on the blogs - 9

rwbbutton.gifShaun Dale of Upper Left stands up for truth and rejecting the oft-times questionable “common wisdom”. He points out that repetition has caused many to forget the actual circumstances and come to accept and use Karl Rove’s spin.

The reason we remember the line at all is because the Republicans lied about what John Kerry meant and their lie was reported as Kerry’s mistake. It will happen to our next nominee, whoever that might be, and the one after that and every one until they’re called on it every time they do it.

rwbbutton.gifJK gets a nod from conservative blogger, Jay Reding, at jayreding.com – Conservatism with Attitude:

Sen. John Kerry has an important editorial on what the US should do to support democracy in Lebanon. In fact, if you only read the first page and a half, it would be a brilliant editorial on Lebanon. Kerry is absolutely right on the first part — the US government should do everything in its power to assure Lebanese sovereignty against the predations of Syrian groups like Hizballah. Our current #1 recipient of foreign aid, Egypt, continues to be autocratic and authoritarian. Lebanon needs the money — the central government needs to be able to do what Hizballah has been doing and needs to be able to undercut Hizballah in every way. If they need a few billion in the bank to do so, we should be more than willing to oblige since a peaceful and democratic Lebanon is in our national interest. The only way to win the war on terrorism is to undercut authoritarianism, and not just in Iraq.

Jay goes onto disagree about what the correct approach to Syria is.

Jay, as JK pointed out, “Conversation is not capitulation. Until recently, it was widely accepted that good foreign policy demands a willingness to seize opportunities and change policy as the facts change.”

JK’s outlook on talks with Syria was clear in this AP story: “Talking to somebody is not rewarding their behavior. I have no illusions about our differences with these countries … and nothing in the discussion is based on trust,” said. “But you cannot get to (action and verifiability) without setting up the modalities. So you have to engage in some dialogue.”

rwbbutton.gifPamela Leavey at The Democratic Daily takes on the publicity splash that Terry McAuliffe is chasing in “What A Party – What A Hypocrite”.

Elsewhere a blogger referenced this comment from Terry McAuliffe with the question, “Which Terry McAuliffe do you believe?”

McAuliffe lavished praise on Kerry himself. “John Kerry ran a great race,” he said. “We had every player on the field. We had more money. We had the largest field operation. We got close. We got to the 1-yard line. But we didn’t win. John Kerry gave it all he had.”

Well, this article from The Hill may clear up any confusion you may have about Terry McAuliffe’s motivation and as Terry himself said, “This is my book and I’ve done my best to make myself look good”.

rwbbutton.gifJim Witkins at Independents for Kerry weighs in with “2008 Presidential Race Should be about Global Warming Solutions”.  He reminds us that “Al Gore and John Kerry have been talking about it for years” and that JK “made it a critical component of his 2004 Presidential bid touting alternative energy Independence as both a national security strategy, a way to create jobs and lead the world in innovation, and an important step to reducing global warming causing gases.” He concludes that “The problems we face today will seem like small potatoes if we don’t address Global Warming immediately.”

Jim, it is important. JK devoted one of his Faneuil Hall speeches to it, helped promote house parties to gather and watch Gore’s “An Inconvenient Truth” and it will be a part of his and Teresa’s forthcoming book, This Moment on Earth.   <!-more-> rwbbutton.gifDotti Janiak at The Democratic Daily highlighted excerpts from 2 different speeches by JK in her post titled “Run, John Kerry, Run”:

From his 11-3-2004 speech in Faneuil Hall:

“I believe that what we started in this campaign will not end here. And I know our fight goes on to put America back to work and make our economy a great engine of job growth. Our fight goes on to make affordable health care an accessible right for all Americans, not a privilege. Our fight goes on to protect the environment, to achieve equality, to push the frontiers of science and discovery, and to restore America’s reputation in the world. I believe that all of this will happen — and sooner than we may think — because we’re America. And America always moves forward.”

From his 3-12-2006 speech in Nashua, NH:

    John Kerry’s “Ten-Point Plan for America:
  1. Obey the law and protect civil rights in this country.
  2. Tell the truth, and tell it to Americans all the time.
  3. Fire the incompetents and restore competence and integrity to Washington.
  4. Chase the money changers from the temples of democracy, and reclaim it for the grass-roots of this nation.
  5. Bring our troops home from Iraq.
  6. Find Osama bin Laden, and secure our ports and homeland.
  7. Stop subsidizing “Big Oil,” and start investing in energy alternatives.
  8. Make access to affordable health care a right and not a privilege.
  9. Reduce the deficit and respect work over wealth.
  10. Invest in education and fight for American jobs that restore the American dream.
 

As for the right-wing bloggers’ fantasies about the photo of JK speaking with 2 reporters in Baghdad, JK had lots of defenders. Prime among them were TPMmuckraker, Greg Sargent at TPMCafe and The Horse’s Mouth, and Beachmom in a Recommended diary at dailykos.com.

rwbbutton.gifJustin Rood at TPMmuckraker covers it here, here and here.

rwbbutton.gifGreg Sargent at TPMCafe did a little more investigative work and reported on it.

The wingers spent many, many hours on this photo, trying to prove its authenticity. I’m not going to dispute that it’s authentic. Rather, I’m here to report that I’ve now contacted at least two people who say they were at the table with Kerry. And it’s clear that the winger characterization of the photo is entirely bogus.

Specifically, it turns out that Kerry was at that table to conduct an off-the-record breakfast discussion with two reporters, so there would have been no reason whatsover for troops to be sitting with them. In fact, Kerry and the reporters even sought out empty seats, I’m told.

The two reporters who met with Kerry that morning are Marc Santora of The New York Times and Mark Danner of The New York Review, The New Yorker and other publications.

[...]

Danner confirmed to me that he’s the guy with his back to the camera, saying his jacket and the back of his head looked the same as in the photo. He added that his position in relation to Kerry was the same as the photo showed. And here’s what Danner had to say to me about the empty seats:   “If there were empty seats it’s because we sought them out. We wanted an empty table so we could talk. It’s that simple.”

rwbbutton.gifGreg followed up his post at TPMCafe with this report at The Horse’s Mouth blog:

Sometimes all you can do is sit back and marvel at the winger bloggers’ seemingly bottomless capacity for buffoonery and self-parody.

On Friday I posted my case against the “lonely Kerry” photo story. This tale - pushed hard by the winger blogs - held that a widely-circulated picture of Kerry dining “alone” in Iraq proved that the troops had “spurned” the Senator. Yet it turns out that the story’s completely false: Kerry was in fact having an off-the-record discussion with two journalists, and one of the reporters, Mark Danner, confirmed to me that the three had actually sought out empty seats for privacy.

Game over, right? Nope.

rwbbutton.gifBeachmom on dailykos.com made an important point about the incident in her recommended-list diary, “The Character Attack on John Kerry – A Cautionary Tale”

In the scheme of things, this is a minor, and failed, smear on Senator Kerry, but we all know that unsuspecting Americans have been e-mailed this story or heard it on far right talk radio, and they may never learn the truth of how Senator Kerry was greeted by the troops. The Right has their direct e-mail, their talk radio, their Drudge Reports, their NY Posts, and their Fox News. And they will use this weaponry to their last dying breath. It is up to us as a Party to counteract the smears every time, even in the midst of, shall we call it, pre-pre-primary wars. Because if it happens to my guy, you can be darned sure that next week it will happen to your guy or gal.

Here’s some others who stepped up on defense:

rwbbutton.gifTRex at FireDogLake had some fun pointing out just how twisted is the “logic” of some right-wing bloggers in pointing out the major gaffe on the photo of JK talking with 2 reporters in Baghdad.

rwbbutton.gifellroon at Rants from the Rookery points out how reality fails to support the right-wing bloggers’ views on the photo. ellroon also highlights the Military Times poll: “The fact that the military is becoming … disenchanted … with Bush and his non-plans is even more stunning.”

rwbbutton.gifRon Chusid at Liberal Values also commented on the Military Times poll in a post titled, “It’s Bush, Not Kerry, That The Troops Really Dislike”. He wrote, “The right wing bloggers have had to resort to falsely claiming that Kerry’s joke about Bush was about the troops and fabricating a story that the troops were avoiding Kerry in Iraq by using a photo of Kerry giving a private newspaper interview in order to claim that Kerry and the troops did not like each other. The reality is that the troops are increasingly opposing George Bush’s policies.”

rwbbutton.gifLuis at The Blog From Another Dimension summed it up neatly with: “the whole thing is a non-issue, little more than wingnut bloggers trying to squeeze yet another let’s-ridicule-Kerry story out of an out-of-context story with a completely fabricated conclusion sewn into it.”

rwbbutton.gifJohn Cole at Balloon Juice, an independent, conservative-minded blogger, really spelled out his disgust with “the current GOP and their noisemakers” in a piece titled Sick of the Mouthpieces.

rwbbutton.gifAnd then there was this entry—not exactly a blog but nonetheless, an interesting report on the photo and the right-wing bloggers came from the staff at Editor&Publisher in “Another Setback for Conservative Bloggers: The Great ‘Kerry Photo’ Flap”.

 

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Violet, regarding Terry McAuliffe, to quote, um, Terry McAuliffe:

“This is all about Zell Miller selling books. And if he were just another Republican with a book, he wouldn’t sell any. But a Democrat out whacking Democrats helps him sell books.

This is a blatant materialism for him to sell more books. Nobody cares what Zigzag Zell Miller thinks.”

 

When McAuliffe made that statement, he was talking about Zell Miller at the RNC.  Now, I don’t disagree regarding Zell, but pot/kettle here, Terry.

Actually, I wish it were as simple as book sales.  I think it has a lot more to do with Terry’s loyalties and the extent to which he’s willing to go to push his agenda.

To paraphrase Three Time Loser Terry McAuliffe:

“Nobody cares what Three Time Loser Terry McAuliffe thinks.”

Posted by GV | 01/07/07, 01:57 PM EST

When will the rightwing apologize for their lies this time?  Michelle Malkin…you said you would.  So where’s the apology?

Nice blog topic.

I wanted to share this article I discovered that shows the Republicans are now divided on Iraq.

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/7aab5a38-9e7b-11db-ac03-0000779e2340.html

That’s great that they’re finally recognising that ‘cut and run’ isn’t the right thing to say when troops are involved.  Though one is left to wonder how much more effective the occupation and war would have been had they dropped their lies in ‘04 and earlier and at least spent the last few years holding their own accountable, at least now they are seeing the light.

I hope they will now turn to take a deeper more serious look at the Kerry/Feingold/Boxer bill that they ignored for cheap party politics before.

Posted by Tia | 01/07/07, 02:08 PM EST

Senator Kerry,

Keep fighting to resolve the Iraq occupation so that we don’t have to have more broken hearted moms like this one.

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2003513349_brodeur07m0.html

Posted by Tia | 01/07/07, 02:11 PM EST

Discovered this interesting post that I had missed before.

This is an incredible comment from Trent Lott.

“Lott: Administration “Pushed” Intel on Iraq
By Paul Kiel - January 5, 2007, 10:29 AM

Here’s Senate Minority Whip Trent Lott (R-MS) on Hardball last night. Does anybody else find this to be a stunning admission from the Republicans’ #2 in the Senate?

The transcript:

Matthews:
I think Vice President Cheney had his thumb on the scale, do you agree? That they were pushing this war so hard, they were working to look at any evidence that backed the war and ignore any evidence that didn’t back the war.

Lott:
They were pushing the evidence that justified going to the war, a lot of us, Republicans and Democrats, were concerned about what we were told, and we bought the packet.”

Video Link:
http://www.tpmmuckraker.com/archives/002287.php

And…

Is lying about the reason for a war an impeachable offense?
By John W. Dean
FindLaw Columnist
Special to CNN.com
Friday, June 6, 2003

To put it bluntly, if Bush has taken Congress and the nation into war based on bogus information, he is cooked. Manipulation or deliberate misuse of national security intelligence data, if proven, could be “a high crime” under the Constitution’s impeachment clause. It would also be a violation of federal criminal law, including the broad federal anti-conspiracy statute, which renders it a felony “to defraud the United States, or any agency thereof in any manner or for any purpose.”

http://www.cnn.com/2003/LAW/06/06/findlaw.analysis.dean.wmd

Posted by Tia | 01/07/07, 02:15 PM EST

Wow! This is an awesome post. It’s all here:

Kerry is the the most vocal critic of the war in the Senate, and his plan for a timetable garners 13 Democratic votes, but the spin tries to portray everyone else as having a clearer position.

Jay is very astute, but I am in the talk is not dangerous camp. In fact, it helps.

What do Terry and McCain have in common: two faces. As a Democrat, Terry’s backstabbing makes him simply McAwful. http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2007/1/5/1592/92690

Senator Kerry’s Ten-Point Plan was excellent and more relevant today. Get it done.

Thank you Greg Sargent.

The wingnuts are pathetic.

So in a nutshell, it looks like these few much-hyped claims are, again, nothing but smear and spin.

Posted by ProSense | 01/07/07, 02:20 PM EST

GV,

What’s that song about the measure of a man?

“This world can analyze and size you up
And throw you on the scales
They can IQ you and run you through
Their rigorous details
They can do their best to rate you
And they’ll place you on their charts
And then back it up with scientific smarts
Bur there’s more to what your worth
Than what their human eyes can see

CHORUS
Oh I say the measure of a man
Is not how tall you stand
How wealthy or intelligent you are
Cause I found out the measure of a man
God knows and understands
For He looks inside to the bottom of your heart
And what’s in the heart defines
The measure of a man

Well you can doubt your worth
And search for who you are and where you stand
But God made you in His image
When He formed you in his hands
And He looks at you with mercy
And He sees you through His love
You’re His child and that will always be enough
For there’s more to what you’re worth
Than you could ever comprehend

CHORUS
BRIDGE

You can spend your life pursuing physical perfection
There is so much more, more than ever meets the eye
For God looks through the surface
And He defines your worth by, what is on the inside”


John Kerry understands this.  He was taught well by his own parents and this story tells you about the measure of John Kerry.

“Can I say, if I could just say a word about a woman that you didn’t ask about, but my mom passed away a couple years ago, just before I was deciding to run. And she was in the hospital, and I went in to talk to her and tell her what I was thinking of doing.

And she looked at me from her hospital bed and she just looked at me and she said, “Remember: integrity, integrity, integrity.” Those are the three words that she left me with.

And my daughters and my wife are people who just are filled with that sense of what’s right, what’s wrong.”

Now…McAuliffe showed his measure—books over loyalty and money over honesty.

Posted by Tia | 01/07/07, 02:24 PM EST

Prosense,

McAwful!  Lol!

Posted by Tia | 01/07/07, 02:28 PM EST

I’m watching the video of the NH speech Dotti posted about.  I remember it, but it’s really worth another look.  Awesome.

Check in out on C-Span:  http://tinyurl.com/yl573f

Posted by GV | 01/07/07, 02:34 PM EST

GV,

That speech was great as were many others.

What I find most interesting is when you repeat the statements from the speech, most people agree.  But then they go, “John Kerry said that?!”

And I have to explain that he did but you have to tune out the media noise to hear what is being said by John Kerry (and other Democrats).  Then understanding clicks in their eyes and they start talking about other things they noticed during ‘04.

Without cyberspace and the hard work of people to get these events live-blogged or to get video up, I’d never see them.

Posted by Tia | 01/07/07, 02:40 PM EST

Excellent posts GV and Tia. Thanks for the links.

As far as McAwful, it’s a perfect nickname.

Posted by ProSense | 01/07/07, 02:58 PM EST

What I almost forgot to post about, and what’s really exciting is Senator Kerry and THK’s book!

Forget McAwful’s sad attempt to explain away his failures in ‘00, ‘02 and ‘04.  No one’s going to read it anyway.

I know the Senator and Teresa been working on the book for a while, but the link Violet posted has a good bit of information that I hadn’t seen before.

Spring ‘07, huh?  Well, my daffodils are up here in Pittsburgh, so let’s have it!

Posted by GV | 01/07/07, 03:20 PM EST

These blog wrap-ups just keep getting better and better. I know they must be a lot of work to compile on your end, but they’re very much appreciated on ours. Thanks!

Posted by Otter | 01/08/07, 10:27 AM EST

Who cares what McAuliffe says.

Kerry was an intellectual who was willing to change his views based on reality while Bush sticks with the same stupid thing even though his plan is not working (like increasing 20,000 troops in Iraq). America is going down the tubes because this president has been nothing but a disaster.

A national poll conducted by AOL indicated that more Americans can name the members of the Three Stooges than can name the three branches of government.  73% knew “Curly, Larry and Moe”, while only 42% knew “executive, judicial and legislative.”

Is it any wonder George W. Bush is still president?  He got all the Three Stooges votes.

Posted by Joe | 01/08/07, 11:00 AM EST

That having been said, I see that conservative blogger Jay Reding has responded to his having been included in this week’s wrap-up on his Conservatism with Attitude blog this morning.

While Mr. Reding disagrees with Senator Kerry on some points, he also agrees with him on others—and he does both in a reasonable and thoughtful way, which is a refreshing change from so many other bloggers who claim to be real conservatives when they’re really just being right-wing ranters.

The Senate being a much calmer, quieter place than the large and rambunctious House, its members have earned a reputation for referring to each other as “my friend across the aisle.” In many cases this is more than just a rhetorical device, it’s actually true—and the small-d democratic legislative process is the better for it.

Genuine bipartisanship means recognizing that it is possible, and even productive, to be adversaries without having to be enemies. Mr. Reding seems to recognize this as well. I’ve bookmarked his blog and will continue to read it in the future. Here’s hoping that he’ll do the same with this one.

Posted by Otter | 01/08/07, 11:01 AM EST

“PURGE THE SURGE”


I have just read an extensive explanation on the proposed details of Mr. Bush’s proposed troop increase and economic incentives for Iraq.

We have lost over 3000 of our children to Mr. Bush’s miss-administration of the war in Iraq. If we do an about face and start bringing our troops home right now, we will have still wasted ½ a trillion dollars of the tax payers’ money on “Bush’s Folly” in Iraq.

Billions of dollars have been lost and stolen with no accountability by either the Iraqi government or Mr. Bush’s administration. The Iraqi government has failed to even attempt to bring peace and stability to Iraq. They have not tried. They are more interested in killing each other off in attempts by the various factions to gain total control.

While we have been spending money and lives in attempting to build schools in Iraq, 20% of our own children live in poverty. While we have been attempting to rebuild hospitals in Iraq, our own people have one of the poorest health care systems of any industrialized nation. While we have been attempting to rebuild the electrical grid in Iraq, our own electrical grid is obsolete and easily venerable to terrorist attack.

We can not be the world’s policeman and should not try. That’s what the UN is for. And we should not be the charity blank check for the world. We can not afford that either. Economics should determine what a country attempts to do. We never could afford Mr. Bush’s Folly and we sure can’t afford to go forward with it.

Mr. Bush claims to be “a man of faith,”…I don’t think so, for it is written, “But if any provide not for his own and ‘specially for those of his own house (nation), he hath denied the faith, and is worse than an infidel”… 1 Timothy…5-8…To follow

Mr. Bush’s proposed course of action would be to throw more lives and money after that which has already been lost…..

If Mr. Bush wants “a troop surge,” he should go to Iraq and lead it himself.
                                  Signed …John Harris
                                  Co-Author of ‘”Journey Through Cancer Land”

Posted by john harris | 01/09/07, 03:22 PM EST

Thanks for the kind comments here. They’re very well appreciated, and it’s heartening to see people on the other side of the aisle treating others with respect. It’s a real credit to Senator Kerry’s supporters.

I disagree with Senator Kerry that negotiations with Syria will be fruitful. However, I respect the Senator for making Lebanon an issue—we need to do more to help Lebanon’s fragile democracy survive against foreign interference. If Senator Kerry wishes to make himself an advocate for the Lebanese people, he deserves our full support. I may disagree with the Senator on 99% of the issues, but if he is willing to educate the American people about the situation in Lebanon and motivate the government to act, his actions deserve the full support of all Americans who hope to see a more peaceful Middle East.

Posted by Jay Reding | 01/09/07, 06:51 PM EST

Can I just say that it was really gracious of Jay Reding to stop by and comment?  Important, too - it’s awfully sad to consider that the fate of the Middle East hinging on the partisan bickering of American politicians.  We should all be united in our commitment to diplomacy.

Posted by democrafty | 01/10/07, 06:57 PM EST