Senate Debates Troop Withdrawal from Iraq - UPDATED

UPDATE:

This comes in the way of a little “we told you so” or “we’ve been saying that all along” but admittedly, it is nice to see it in print.

From Jake Tapper of ABC News

Dems’ Iraq Plan Looks Familiar to John Kerry Similar Plan to Senator’s Proposal in October 2005

Allies of Sen. John Kerry, D-Mass., point out that the current withdrawal (or “phased redeployment”) proposal introduced last week by Senate Democratic leaders and currently being debated on the floor of the U.S. Senate greatly resembles plans Kerry introduced in October 2005 as well as in June 2006.

Moreover, they note - with regret in their voice and bile in their mouths - for his efforts at the time Kerry and his plan were mocked and belittled by his fellow Democratic senators, at least one of whom joined Kerry at a press conference today to push the new proposal.

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Asked after the press conference if Reid’s plan wasn’t the same as his from last June, Kerry smiles and said, “They’re very similar.”

So what took his colleagues so long to come to the conclusion he reached about a “phased redeployment” back in October 2005?

“These things take time,” Kerry said. “Things have to percolate. That’s the nature of legislation.”

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Asked today about the lack of support - and anonymous sniping - he experienced back then from the same Democratic senators he stood with today, Kerry said “I’m not interested in going backwards.”

He then resisted one more effort by this reporter to prod him into a more emotive response, smiled, and walked off.

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This is welcomed progress. It’s imperative that Congress sets a deadline to get the troops out of Iraq safely and as soon as possible, and address the what next. The U.S. isn’t going to withdraw from the international community when combat troops exit Iraq. Senator Kerry has long advocated a plan calling for a deadline and diplomacy.

Here’s a great photo from today’s press conference.

Posted by ProSense | 03/14/07, 11:58 AM EST

This part was excellent:

This new ‘surge’ is just a second helping of the same old dish. There’s a word for this kind creeping escalation: Vietnam. This is exactly the kind of steady escalation that got tens of thousands of American soldiers killed for a policy that could not work.

Posted by beachmom | 03/14/07, 12:12 PM EST

I want to note here that NPR yesterday (or perhaps on Monday) reported that the newest supplemental funding request includes a request for an addition 3500 troops for Afghanistan and inserted discreetly throughout the bill, requests for what amounts to another 6000 new troops for Iraq, that would be in addition to the 21,000 already requested for the surge.

I haven’t seen that noted elsewhere in MSM though I haven’t looked too hard for it.  Anyone else hear or see anything about that?

Posted by Violet | 03/14/07, 12:24 PM EST

Olbermann and others have been covering it for the last couple or three days. While the MSM isn’t exactly trumpeting it from the rooftops, it’s not a hidden story either. Sure looks from here like the current administration’s lockstep lead on the MSM’s nosering is history by now.

Posted by Otter | 03/14/07, 12:36 PM EST

It will still be tough to pass this resolution, but they are so much closer than when Senator Kerry and 12 brave Senators stood for setting a deadline about 9 months ago. I remember that Senator Warner then told Senator Kerry that timing is everything- I hope the timing will be right now for a few Republicans to vote for this.

The reasons given for this amendment are exactly those laid out by Senator Kerry last year - he was the one with the right timing. Had President Bush accepted the Senators plan, we would nearly out of Iraq by now and with any luck the recommended diplomatic initiatives would have led to a better situation.

It would be nice if the other Senators gave Senator Kerry more credit, but the important thing is that this is moving forward and has gained strength.

Posted by Karennj | 03/14/07, 12:40 PM EST

Here is a clip of the news conference: http://democrats.senate.gov/multimedia

Posted by fedup | 03/14/07, 04:06 PM EST

Too bad that the resolution does not include a firm deadline (as recognized by Kerry in a short blurb I heard on NPR) and that we need to wait 120 days before withdrawing.

But it is a clear progress compared to what exists and clearly a challenge to get nearly all the Democrats united on a statement for withdrawal.

Posted by FrenchGirlFromMA | 03/14/07, 06:24 PM EST

John Kerry did what he said he would do.  He got the resolution for setting a deadline on the Senate agenda again. He came through for us and the rest of the American people.

So now it is time for us to really support this effort and reach out to both republicans and democrats to stop with the politics and seriously suport a plan that will get Iraq to pull together.

Posted by Jeanne | 03/15/07, 03:03 AM EST

And in the meanwhile, the New York Times reports that the Iraqi government has already failed to meet the timetables and requirements that the administration presented to Congress months ago:

The Bush administration, which six months ago issued a series of political goals for the Iraqi government to meet by this month, is now tacitly acknowledging that the goals will take significantly longer to achieve.

In interviews this week, administration officials said that the military buildup intended to stabilize Baghdad and create the conditions for achieving the objectives would not be fully in place until June and that all of the objectives would not be fulfilled until the year’s end.

A “notional political timeline” that the administration provided to Congress in January in an attachment to a letter from Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice to Senator Carl Levin, chairman of the Armed Services Committee, had called for most of the objectives to be met by this month.

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A Pentagon assessment of progress in Iraq through the end of last year, submitted to Congress on Wednesday, notes that Prime Minister Nuri Kamal al-Maliki “has promised to reform his government, beginning with his cabinet and the ministries,” but that none of those steps had yet happened. It cited the “passage of a framework” last month for sharing oil revenues among Iraq’s ethnic groups as a modest sign of progress, but notes that the last two months of 2006, before Mr. Bush announced his new strategy, “saw little progress on the reconciliation front.”

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In interviews, officials said they expected most political progress to be months away. The slower pace of progress puts the administration in a difficult position, at a time of growing Congressional criticism of the new strategy, which starts with an increase of more than 20,000 American troops.

The slowness of political progress, officials say, could indicate the need to extend the time the new troops remain on the ground in Baghdad and its suburbs. Congressional Democrats are seeking passage of legislation that would impose a 2008 deadline for withdrawal of American troops, and they are calling for evidence that political benchmarks are being met.

Mr. Bush has told Congressional leaders that such American demands are part of “a culture of seeking instant results,” officials who have met with him said.

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Administration officials have never rescinded the “notional timeline,” though the Iraqi government had already missed most of the deadlines by the time Ms. Rice gave it to Congress in January. That document listed political achievements that Washington expected would be fulfilled between September 2006 and March 2007; with the exception of the oil law, which awaits final passage, most have not been achieved. American and Iraqi officials had agreed on the notional timeline back in October.

In interviews, Bush administration officials said that the House proposal was too rigid. “The arbitrary setting of deadlines is counterproductive,” a senior administration official said Wednesday. “We need to see that they are progressing,” the official said, but added that “we don’t think rigid deadlines are appropriate.”

The Bush administration officials would agree to speak about the so-called benchmarks only on condition of anonymity, because of the politically delicate debate about whether the United States should be imposing deadlines on the Iraqi government. Indeed, even using the words “deadlines” or “timetables” has become politically treacherous.

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Posted by Otter | 03/15/07, 08:02 AM EST

Well that was a quick debate.

When I got home I learned that the whole debate and voting on the Iraq War resoultion was over.

The Senators are still barking at each other and don’t understand the urgency of creating a Iraq policy that will have results for the Iraq people, our soliders and our national interest

I don’t think the republican senators want to debate, they rather call the democrats names.  They don’t know how to do the hard work. 

Thank goodness for John Kerry. He is willing to do the work for a solution to the Iraq war and he will always look out for the welfare of our soliders.  They should know by now that John Kerry will never forget that they are out there in Iraq and will be sure they are appreciated now and when they come home. While everyone esle is distracted by politics (including the media) John Kerry keeps focused.

Posted by Jeanne | 03/15/07, 05:55 PM EST